1/23:If there's anything Tierney and I (Carina) love more than television, it's arguing about television. (Seriously, you should hear us fight about Rory Gilmore's boyfriends. W... Show More »If there's anything Tierney and I (Carina) love more than television, it's arguing about television. (Seriously, you should hear us fight about Rory Gilmore's boyfriends. We can go all night -- and Tierney will still be wrong about Dean in the morning.)
Hot brothers. Bad intentions. Evil forces lurking in the dark. Occasional shirtless flexing. "The Vampire Diaries" and "Supernatural," our two favorite shows on The CW, have enough common threads to get tangled in.
We decided to take our battle to Zap2it, Debate Club style. We're pitting the Salvatores and the Winchesters (and their entourages, soundtracks, and cars) against each other in the ultimate showdown. Each of us will argue a side -- whether we agree with it or not. In the end, only one show can come out victorious.
Please note: We really, really love both shows, so feel free to tweet us your thoughts, but please don't storm our offices with tar and feathers and pitchforks and rock salt and vervain, okay? We're looking at you, Samgirls and Deangirls and Delenas and Stelenas. Keep calm and carry on. Or whatever.
--Carina MacKenzie, Zap2it « Less
2/23Damon vs. Dean:We're putting the two older brothers -- arguably some of the best characters on TV today -- against each other. It's a battle to the death!
Five reasons Damon is c... Show More »We're putting the two older brothers -- arguably some of the best characters on TV today -- against each other. It's a battle to the death!
Five reasons Damon is cooler than Dean:
1. He looks better with his shirt off.
2. He has better one-liners. "If I see something I haven't seen before, I'll throw a dollar at it." vs. The Suite Life of Zach and Cas!" Please.
3. He has way more leather jackets, and they don't look like they smell like mothballs.
4. He's pretty much over his daddy issues.
5. He cries significantly less than Dean does. I mean really.
Five reasons why Dean is better than Damon? Child's play.
1. While Damon was pining over some chick in a tomb for 145 years, Dean was saving the freakin' world. Dean is many things, but a whipped lapdog is not one of them (Also, one look at Dean and Katherine would be all over him like white on rice).
2. He treated Candice Accola's character like crap first (Not something to be proud of, but still, bro points).
3. Dean's died twice and he's still keepin' on keepin' on. Who wants to be a vampire when you could be a Winchester?
4. He can produce the most perfectly perfect single man tear ever. Seriously, it's an art form.
5. He isn't a slave to his eyebrows. He doesn't let them do the talking for him.
Sorry for the cop-out, but this one is a draw. It's Sophie's choice! Picking between Dean and Damon is way above our pay grade. « Less
3/23Stefan vs. Sam:Next in the ring? Stefan Salvatore and Sam Winchester. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and nobody knows it better than these bloodaholic kid brothers.
Carina: I... Show More »Next in the ring? Stefan Salvatore and Sam Winchester. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and nobody knows it better than these bloodaholic kid brothers.
Carina: I'm pretty sure there's a "Supernatural" box set in Stefan's room, because everything he's doing? Sam did it first, and Sam did it better. He attempted to have a normal relationship with a normal girl, but someone from his past showed up and put her in danger. He grew estranged from his brother until they had to unite against a common enemy. He got himself addicted to blood and had to be tossed into a basement lockup, where people from his past haunted him through withdrawal symptoms. He angsted until his forehead grew muscles foreheads shouldn't have. Etc, etc, etc.
Tierney: Sam has no soul, so your argument is invalid. He has no feelings!
Carina: Oh no! Whatever will he write about in his diary?
Tierney: At least Stefan kept his "civilian" girlfriend alive past the first episode!
Both Stefan and Sam have gotten infinitely more intriguing this season, but this one swings to Sam.
Tierney: Why are they wearing shirts? This calls for an ab-off. « Less
4/23The Ab-Off!:WINNER: THE CITIZENS OF THE WORLDCome on, now.
5/23Addicted to Heroine:Even if "Supernatural" had girls on the show -- which it doesn't, because they're all dead -- we think "Vampire Diaries" would still have this category in the bag.
E... Show More »Even if "Supernatural" had girls on the show -- which it doesn't, because they're all dead -- we think "Vampire Diaries" would still have this category in the bag.
Elena is exactly the kind of girl we love seeing on TV. She doesn't put her relationship before her safety, she doesn't give into temptation, and she's not scared of repelling down into a snake-filled well to save her boyfriend (who needs to learn to look before he leaps).
Elena isn't the only awesome girl in Mystic Falls, either -- Bonnie and Caroline also know how to get the job done, even when the boys screw up.
WINNER: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES
A+ for girl power. « Less
6/23Dear Diary: Which show has better journals?:There's a journaling epidemic in Mystic Falls, and the Winchester boys love to consult their dad's notes. Which would you rather read?
Carina... Show More »There's a journaling epidemic in Mystic Falls, and the Winchester boys love to consult their dad's notes. Which would you rather read?
Carina: I'll see your creepy journal of creepy information about creepy things, and raise you one teenage girl's angst accounts, one eternal teenager's tale of eternal torment, one history teacher's password-protected vampire hunting log, and, also, a creepy journal of creepy information about creepy things.
Yes. There's Elena's diary, Stefan's journal, Alaric's secret Word document, and the original John Gilbert's journal, which could take John Winchester's journal out back behind the gym and beat it up. Now we just need Damon to get a twitter and Jeremy to start a vampire Tumblr and we've got all our bases covered.
Tierney: I'm sorry, but if I wanted to read teenagers' (and teenage vampires) deepest thoughts and darkest secrets, I'd go steal my friend's 13 year-old sister's diary. A 162 year-old vampire who has the same feelings and writing capabilities as a 13 year-old just doesn't do it for me (And didn't he go Ivy League in the '70s? I'm officially signing Stefan up for creative writing at Mystic Falls University. You'll thank me later).
John Winchester's journal was more than just a glorified diary Sam and Dean used as a replacement for the Demon Hunting 101 course; it was the viewers' way of getting to know a man without actually meeting him. The journey of a man possessed bound in brown leather, John's journal has become a lasting symbol of the show and we wouldn't be surprised if it's the last one standing at the end of this story, ready to be shared with an unsuspecting world. Hey, if anything, it can at least be sold as a companion guide to Chuck's books.
Quality over quantity. « Less
7/23Dead Mother Daughter Duos:We love a girl who can intimidate a man ... and we love her mom even more. Unfortunately, both of these mother-daughter pairs are dead. Who do we miss the most?
Tierney:... Show More »We love a girl who can intimidate a man ... and we love her mom even more. Unfortunately, both of these mother-daughter pairs are dead. Who do we miss the most?
Tierney: While there is no question that Ellen and Jo were amazing characters, a vampire mother/daughter team beats a hunter mother/daughter team any day of the week. At least we got to know Jo and Ellen before their (ridiculously sad) deaths; Pearl and Anna were taken from us way too soon (Damn you, Kevin and Julie!), leaving us wanting more and with so many intriguing questions: How did they get involved with Katherine? How did they become vampires? Did one turn the other? What happened to Anna's father? Pearl and Anna spin-off show, anyone? Working title: "Mommy Deadest."
Carina: Anna and Pearl were fun to watch, sure, but Ellen and Jo sacrificed their lives to save the world. Okay, maybe it wasn't the most successful plan to take down Lucifer, but still. They suicide-bombed the hellhounds that would've turned Sam and Dean into Kibbles & Bits -- not bad, for a couple of girls. Women don't exactly have a lot of staying power on "Supernatural," but Ellen and Jo became well-developed, three-dimensional characters by the time we lost them. Jo went from a naive kid with a crush to a mature, capable woman (with a crush). Ellen became one of very few people who could get Dean to mind his manners. The ass-kicking, non-evil female presence on the show is sorely missed.
And now, let's all join hands and sing a rousing rendition of "I Can't Fight This Feeling" in memoriam.
We loved the way all of these women could put our boys in their place, but we felt the emotional impact of Ellen and Jo's death more. « Less
8/23Most Swoon-worthy Third Wheel:This round? The angel vs. the history teacher.
There are four reasons why "The Vampire Diaries'" Alaric is better than "Supernatural's" Castiel:
1. ... Show More »This round? The angel vs. the history teacher.
There are four reasons why "The Vampire Diaries'" Alaric is better than "Supernatural's" Castiel:
1. He's been wronged by his ex-wife Isobel (Boo! Hiss!), but is still capable of love.
2. He'll get you some "real boss" punch at the sock hop and kill your stalker vampire ex-boyfriend. He's that perfect.
3. Judging by his Mary Poppins bag of handmade vampire-fighting weapons, he's probably quite the handyman around the house.
4. He CHANGES his clothes.
Carina: Castiel is the boss of Heaven right now, and you really want to mess with him? He could relocate Alaric to the Arctic tundra with a touch of his hand. He fixed Dean's face when Dean looked like Elephant Man after Lucifer's beatdown. His complete lack of a sense of humor is the funniest thing about the show. And who needs a change of clothes when you talk like Batman? Batman doesn't change his suit.
WINNER: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES
Castiel disappears in the middle of too many conversations. It's rude. Plus, his trench coat probably does smell. « Less
9/23Most memorable werewolf:Carina: I'm giving this one to "Supernatural" for the shallowest of reasons. Look, after almost two years of celibacy and wearing lots and lots of layers of clothing... Show More »Carina: I'm giving this one to "Supernatural" for the shallowest of reasons. Look, after almost two years of celibacy and wearing lots and lots of layers of clothing, Madison was the one who finally got Sam Winchester naked. Sure, she ate a human heart shortly after and he ultimately had to shoot her in the head, but seriously. Do you see what he looks like without his shirt on? Seriously.
Tierney: Please, that Chewbacca ain't got nothing on the Lockwoods. I mean, have you seen their shoulders?
In all seriousness, there were those who were skeptical of adding a werewolf into the mix in Mystic Falls. People complained that it was too similar to "Twilight" or "True Blood." People kind of hated the character Tyler. People thought they didn't have the budget to pull off a realistic wolf. Now? Those people are eating their words (hope they're delicious!) as the show has put their own spin on the mythology (It's a curse and an Aztec legend! A moonstone can break the curse! You have to kill someone to trigger the curse! Their bite can kill a vampire!) that has only served to raise the stakes (pun fully intended) for the Salvatore brothers & Co.
WINNER: THE VAMPIRE DIAIRES
Lockwood shoulders trump everything. That is all. « Less
10/23Villain of the Year:Who is the more formidable opponent: "Supernatural's" Lucifer or "The Vampire Diaries" Katherine?
Tierney: He's freakin' Lucifer. I'm pretty sure the devil... Show More »Who is the more formidable opponent: "Supernatural's" Lucifer or "The Vampire Diaries" Katherine?
Tierney: He's freakin' Lucifer. I'm pretty sure the devil himself trumps some vampire who spends too much quality time with her curling iron.
Carina: "I could rip you to shreds and do my nails at the same time."
Sure, Lucifer can bring about the apocalypse. But Katherine is terrifying, has a coven of witches on her side, can compel even the town's most blissfully clueless residents into becoming villains, and does it all wearing amazing boots and impeccable lipstick. Plus, in her journey to her endgame, she gets to make out with everyone in sight. We don't see Lucifer getting laid anytime soon. Katherine is just plain better at her job.
WINNER: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES
When a tiny girl with a pretty smile can make us more terrified than Lucifer can, it's time for the "Supernatural" writers to re-evaluate their definition of scary. « Less
11/23Sweeter ride:At first glance, both cars seem equally cool. However, first glance is wrong.
"That 1967 Chevrolet Impala would turn out to be the most important car -- no, the most importan... Show More »At first glance, both cars seem equally cool. However, first glance is wrong.
"That 1967 Chevrolet Impala would turn out to be the most important car -- no, the most important object -- in pretty much the whole universe." -- Chuck, "Swan Song"
Screw Adam. The Impala is more Sam and Dean's brother than he'll ever be. The "Metallicar" is an essential strand of DNA in the fabric of "Supernatural" It's the show's third main character, acting as the boys loyal confidante, playing witness to their countless fights. It's the brothers; only constant in a life full of new places and different faces; always there for them when their father wasn't. It's Sam and Dean's home. It was there at the beginning of the story, literally supporting the Winchester boys in the aftermath of the fire that killed Mary Winchester, all the way to the bitter "end" in "Swan Song" when it gave Sam the power to take back control of his body from Lucifer, saving the world in the process. It's been said we get by with a little help from our friends. In Sam and Dean's case, they get by with a lot of help from their car and we wouldn't have it any other way.
Carina: Ugh, I hate when Tierney is right.
Because duh. « Less
12/23Favorite flashbacks:Flashbacks are a rare treat on "Supernatural," whereas "The Vampire Diaries" uses them frequently, since the events of 1864 shaped Mystic Falls today. Who does it better?
Cari... Show More »Flashbacks are a rare treat on "Supernatural," whereas "The Vampire Diaries" uses them frequently, since the events of 1864 shaped Mystic Falls today. Who does it better?
Carina:Yeah, the sad lonely motel room Christmas is cute and all ... but on "The Vampire Diaries," the flashbacks have ballgowns and civil war soldiers and and werewolves and witches and vampire sex. Oh, my! Not only do the Salvatores' flashbacks give us more insight into why they are the way they are, but they also let us see who they were before they were turned into vampires, and it's like watching entirely different characters. There are still a thousand centuries-old secrets to be uncovered in Mystic Falls. Bring it on.
Tierney: Sure, "Supernatural's" flashback episodes don't have fancy costumes, corsets, and really, really bad Civil War hat hair, but what they do have is a heartbreaking poignancy that "The Vampire Diaries" strolls down memory lane just can't compete with.
Most of the time we see Sam and Dean struggling to survive/fighting the apocalypse/watching their friends die/losing their souls/getting dragged to hell/[insert everything that's ever happened to them ... ever]. Getting these rare glimpses into their lives as kids, before they became so hopeless, before they built up their walls to the rest of the world, before they died, just makes you really sad to see what they've become. It's sad that a evil slut vampire came in between the Salvatores in 1864, but watching Sam transform from a hopeful kid who is resolved to never join the family business into a man who IS the job? Now that's gut-wrenching.
And they had a flashback about A CAR that made me bawl. When "TVD" can make me cry about a horse and buggy, I'll throw a win at it.
"The Vampire Diaries" has pretty ballgowns, "Supernatural" has adorable tiny Sam and Dean the perfect big brother. We can't pick. « Less
13/23Not-so-parental figure:When all of our favorite protagonists are orphans, there's got to be an almost-but-not-quite parental figure around to keep the peace. Or... you know... not.
Tierney: ... Show More »When all of our favorite protagonists are orphans, there's got to be an almost-but-not-quite parental figure around to keep the peace. Or... you know... not.
Tierney: Jenna is the dream legal guardian of any teenager... ever. You total your car? She'll give you her mini-cooper. You smoke weed? Tacos with an extra helping of half-assed motivational speech. She catches you and your significant other in bed together? Oh, she doesn't care. She just asks that you try to be sneakier. She's trying to write a dissertation and all. You're failing history? She'll date your teacher. Jenna Sommers: Doing Miranda Gilbert proud since May 2009.
Carina: Dude. Bobby has a demon-proof panic room in his basement. Jenna might let you have a slumber party with your vampire boyfriend, but Bobby could get you out of trouble with the FBI just by answering his phone. Do you think Bobby would have accidentally invited Katherine in the door? Hell-to-the-no. If Bobby lived in Mystic Falls, every beer on tap at The Grill would be laced with vervain. And holy water, too. He's thorough like that.
Because at least Bobby has a clue. « Less
14/23Hottest Tattoos:Carina: Whereas Jared and Jensen have to get their tattoos painted on
by the luckiest makeup artist in all the landevery time they do a shirtless scene, Paul Wesley's ink i... Show More »Carina: Whereas Jared and Jensen have to get their tattoos painted on by the luckiest makeup artist in all the landevery time they do a shirtless scene, Paul Wesley's ink is real. By default, that makes it cooler -- maybe...
Tierney: Sam and Dean's tattoos (which protect them from demons) are so iconic that a countless number of fans have gotten the same one to show their devotion. How many fans have gotten Stefan's rose tattoo? Bueller?
When Vampire Diaries fans start bringing pictures of Stefan's tattoos into their local ink parlors, we'll talk. « Less
15/23Most compelling torture scene:Who doesn't like a little torture on a Thursday evening?
Carina: Dean spent 40 years in hell -- for 30 years he was tortured, and after he'd learned by exa... Show More »Who doesn't like a little torture on a Thursday evening?
Carina: Dean spent 40 years in hell -- for 30 years he was tortured, and after he'd learned by example, he flipped and started torturing people himself. And unlike Damon, Dean didn't do his torturing with a hot poker and a freaking flower. Dean's set of knives were a butcher's dream, and he used them with alarming skill to actually get information out of the demon Alistair who had tortured Dean for so long. Heartbreaking, painful revenge. After Damon killed Mason, he pretty much washed his hands of the situation. Dean still gets testy when people mention how well he knows his way around a torture chamber.
Tierney: Damon worrying more about the rug than the fact that he's about to kill someone makes his torture scene 1000x times better than Dean whining about having to hurt a demon. Cowboy up, Dean. You kill demons without even blinking an eye for a living. As crazy as it sounds, watching Damon torture Mason was like welcoming back a girlfriend after she's been in a deep (incredibly annoying) depression over a break-up; We got to see flashes of early Season 1 Damon, the guy who would snap your neck and then dance until the sun went down. Psychotic? Yes. Fun? Hell yes.
But what really made Damon's torturing so much more powerful than Dean's was how symbolic it was: Damon was basically torturing the part of himself that was so stupidly in love with Katherine for all those years. Damon realizes Mason is just like him (a less charming, less dashing version), but still shows no mercy because he knows, just like he wouldn't, Mason wasn't going to give up on Katherine. At least he let the guy have his last meal. Granted it was wolfsbane that made Mason cough up blood, but it's the thought that counts.
We're still a little mad at Damon for being so mean to Mason. You couldn't make it quick and painless? « Less
16/23Driver picks the music:Who has the best soundtrack?
Carina: I was in a bar last week, having a great time, when suddenly "Carry On Wayward Son" came on. Instantly, I wanted to crawl under the tab... Show More »Who has the best soundtrack?
Carina: I was in a bar last week, having a great time, when suddenly "Carry On Wayward Son" came on. Instantly, I wanted to crawl under the table and cry because Sam and Dean have such hard lives. "Supernatural" has some of the most memorable music cues we've ever seen on television -- from "Back in Black" when the Impala hits the road after a long nap in the junkyard to "Renegade" blasting as Sam and Dean got the jump on a SWAT team. This season, fans across the country cried as Dean remembered his brother in a montage set to Bob Seger's "Beautiful Loser."
In Eric Kripke's original pilot script, he wrote: "CUE MUSIC: And you can take your anemic alternative pop and shove it up your a**." Enough said.
Tierney: Not since "The O.C." has music played such an integral part of a show, becoming a vital character in its own right. I can't remember the last time the first season of a show has had this many iconic music moments. We had Damon and Vicki dancing to Anberlin's "Enjoy The Silence," Damon and Elena dancing to Within Temptation's "All I Need," Stefan and Elena's first sexytimes set to Plumb's "Cut," and my personal favorite, Damon and "Elena's" first kiss with Stateless' "Bloodstream" being all ridiculously perfect in the background. I could go on and on, but I'll stop before this becomes a blowout, a mercy kill if you will.
"TVD's" music supervisor Chris Mollere makes it look easy (and trust us, it's really not), compiling an eclectic mix of known favorites (Sara Bareilles, One Republic), and newly discovered gems (Sky Ferreira, Mads Langer*) that always take scenes to the next level without distracting from the action. Sure, "Supernatural" has some great classics, but whenever they come blaring on I always get distracted by the song and lose momentary focus of the hotness that is Sam and Dean, which makes the show lose by default.
*Release "The River Runs Wild" already, dude. No one likes a tease.
WINNER: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES
This was a tough one, but since "Supernatural" seems to have lost some of the music budget that made it rock so hard in the first few seasons, we've got to hand it to Mollere. « Less
17/23The Coif:Both of these shows have some serious hair issues.
Carina: The most terrifying moment on "The Vampire Diaries" for me wasn't when Stefan went bloodthirsty or when Elena got staked i... Show More »Both of these shows have some serious hair issues.
Carina: The most terrifying moment on "The Vampire Diaries" for me wasn't when Stefan went bloodthirsty or when Elena got staked in the back. Sure, those were a little freaky... but I've never been as scared as I was when Stefan jumped into the well and his hair went flat. I couldn't even recognize him.
Tierney: Scientifically proven fact: Every time Sam Winchester cuts his hair, a fairy dies. Now you know why it's so long. An entire species metaphorically lives and breathes on that man's head.
WINNER: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES
Because Sam's sideburns are eating his face, and that's not cute. « Less
18/23Coolest 'Friday Night Lights' alum:"Supernatural" has Adrianne Palicki and "The Vampire Diaries" has Zach Roerig. So which show makes the best use of their former Dillon resident?
Tiern... Show More »"Supernatural" has Adrianne Palicki and "The Vampire Diaries" has Zach Roerig. So which show makes the best use of their former Dillon resident?
Tierney:Why am I even bothering? Sorry Jess, you seemed like a really nice girl and all, but Carina's love for Matt knows no moral or ethical bounds.
Carina: It's true. He's perfect. He spends his time helping old ladies cross the street, pining for lost loves, and having the bluest blue eyes. I once had a dream about him volunteering at a high school book fair. Also, every time he smiles, God saves a kitten from certain death. These are just facts.
WINNER: VAMPIRE DIARIES
Yay Matt!!! « Less
19/23Who's got the better bling?:Both "Supernatural" and "The Vampire Diaries" feature some gaudy -- but important -- jewelry. So whose do we love best?
Tierney: Anyone who is anyone on this show... Show More »Both "Supernatural" and "The Vampire Diaries" feature some gaudy -- but important -- jewelry. So whose do we love best?
Tierney: Anyone who is anyone on this show has an important piece of jewelry that is integral to their survival. Ready for the rundown? You may want to grab snacks. Damon, Stefan and Caroline have rings that allow them to walk in the sun (they didn't even get to pick them, how rude!); Katherine, Anna, Pearl and Isobel have (mostly ugly) day-walking necklaces; Alaric and Jeremy wear rings that prevent them from being killed by supernatural beings (and they have the collapsed lung and broken neck, respectively, from Damon to prove it. That's what friends are for); Elena has a vervain necklace that protects her from being compelled; and Bonnie used to have a crystal necklace that made her look fat (Caroline's words). Sorry Matt and Jenna, here's hoping mystical toe rings show up for you two sometime in the near future.
Carina:Okay, okay. Everything in Mystic Falls that remotely resembles jewelry is magical and saves lives and stuff. (Watch out, kids, your Hannah Montana Silly Bandz just might have the power to make all vampires in a five-mile radius sparkle in sunlight.) Still, all of that jewelry combined doesn't carry the emotional weight of Dean's amulet. Sam gave him the necklace for Christmas when they were kids, and Dean wore it every day for over a decade. Even after he found out that it might help save the freaking world, Dean was reluctant to hand it over to Castiel.
Sure, he ended up dropping it into a hotel wastebasket after discovering that their childhood memories didn't mean as much to Sam as they did to Dean, but that was one of the most heartbreaking scenes in an incredibly heartbreaking series. (Seriously. I'm still not over it. Sam fished the necklace out of the trash, right? ... Right???)
When every piece of jewelry in town is enchanted, it just doesn't feel special anymore. Plus, none of the Mystic Falls jewelry has a nickname as cool as the Samulet. « Less
20/23A Trip to the Dentist:Part of the fun of watching a vampire show is seeing those fangs slide out of nowhere. So who's got the most badass chompers: "Supernatural" vamps or the kids from "Th... Show More »Part of the fun of watching a vampire show is seeing those fangs slide out of nowhere. So who's got the most badass chompers: "Supernatural" vamps or the kids from "The Vampire Diaries"?
Carina: Sure, "Supernatural" has creepy fangs, but would you really want to kiss those vampires? Hell no. Not even when they look like Jensen Ackles, thank you very much. "The Vampire Diaries" creepy, spidery eye-veins are enough to give you the uh-oh feeling without being a total turn-off, and the simple fangs are a nice nod to classic vampire lore -- without making a girl worry that she's about to get her tongue gnawed off.
Tierney:The fangs on the "Supernatural" vamps actually make them look how monsters should look: scary. If I had to choose between getting bitten by a shark or a "Supernatural" vampire, I'd pick the shark.
Ten points for originality. And for doing the impossible: making us not want to make out with Jensen Ackles. « Less
21/23$#*! My Dad Does:Look, neither John Winchester nor Giuseppe Salvatore is going to receive a Father of the Year mug for Christmas any time soon. But who is the crappiest dad of all?
Tierney:Guisep... Show More »Look, neither John Winchester nor Giuseppe Salvatore is going to receive a Father of the Year mug for Christmas any time soon. But who is the crappiest dad of all?
Tierney:Guiseppe Salvatore was the worst. A good dad would have gotten his kids the hell out of Mystic Falls as soon as he heard the word "vampire." He also would have never let Damon walk around with that hairstyle, but that's beside the point. Sure, John Winchester destroyed any and all chances of happiness for his kids, but at least he didn't KILL them. John died for his sons, while Giuseppe shot his in cold-blood and tried to light their girlfriend on fire-- in a church. Now who would you rather have tucking you in at night? Exactly.
Carina: I hate you, John Winchester. I hate your big dumb combat boots and the way you read my mind, I hate... wait, wrong rant. Honestly, though, let's go over John's parental indiscretions, shall we? First he raises his kids "like warriors." I understand that he was traumatized by his wife's death, but you'd think that after a few years of seeking revenge, he'd give up and settle down.
No. He moved his kids from school to school, left them alone in motel rooms for days at a time when Dean was only around 10 years old, sent them to school with knives, gave them guns at age 9... plus, there's plenty of evidence that he was also a boozer with a bad temper.
Meanwhile, he had an illegitimate kid on the side who he took to baseball games, presumably while Sam and Dean were alone in a motel room without Christmas presents. Yeah.
For the entire first season, John hid from Sam and Dean while they searched for him tirelessly, because he was apparently searching for the Yellow Eyed Demon and it was too dangerous to bring the kids along for the ride. Then, when it came time for an actual showdown with the Y.E.D, John left Sam and Dean to do it alone? Oh puhhhlease.
Sure, he gets extra points for dying for Dean. But those points get taken off the scoreboard since he told Dean that he might have to kill Sam -- but skipped the part about why.
Because we'd rather love to hate someone than just hate him... and Jeffrey Dean Morgan is easy on the eyes. « Less
22/23Brothers in Arms:Get rid of the girls and the cars and the gore (and preferably the shirts), and both of these shows are really about two brothers and how they navigate their worlds together. Bu... Show More »Get rid of the girls and the cars and the gore (and preferably the shirts), and both of these shows are really about two brothers and how they navigate their worlds together. But which bromance are we most invested in?
Tierney: Class, break out your calculators because we're about to do some math. The Salvatore brothers have been vampires for 145 years. Stefan was 17 when he was turned, which means they've been stuck with each other for 162 years. They've hated and tortured each other for 145 of them and yet still can't let the other one die. I'll take 145 years of brotherly brooding and angst over the apocalypse any day (I mean, Stefan basically turned Damon into a vampire! How do you compete with... Crap, nevermind).
Sure they lock each other up in their basement dungeon hotspot, they poison each other, they stake each other and ruin John Varvatos shirts in the process, but they also save each other from fires, fish bullets out of each other's chests (Kinky!), and when it comes down to it, have never killed each other when they've had every reason and opportunity to. I mean, Damon KILLED Stefan's girlfriend's brother and Stefan still defended him. Now that's love.
Carina: I think Lisa said it best when she said that though she and her sister are close, she wouldn't bring her back from the dead. Sam and Dean's codependency is beyond unhealthy -- it's downright deadly. And we love it. They've literally been through hell and back for each other. Dean sold his soul, and now Sam's soul has gone missing, but through it all, they're soulmates. Besides, the Salvatores may have been through 150 years of sibling rivalry -- but did their family drama prevent an apocalypse? No. The Winchesters are special that way. Cue the '80s power ballad, fade out on the Impala driving off into the sunset.
One is Hell's plaything, the other is Heaven's favorite son. But they've still lived in a car together for the better part of three decades. You just can't beat that. « Less
23/23And the winner is... "Supernatural!":"Supernatural" squeaked by "The Vampire Diaries" in our final tally - which is appropriate, considering we're pretty sure that if the Winchesters ever a... Show More »"Supernatural" squeaked by "The Vampire Diaries" in our final tally - which is appropriate, considering we're pretty sure that if the Winchesters ever actually met the Salvatores, vampire heads would roll.
Still, it's only fair to make a note that Sam and Dean have been breaking our hearts for almost six seasons now, whereas "The Vampire Diaries" is only on year two. Check back with us in a few years -- we may have a different answer for you.
Or, we may be rich and famous and ignore you entirely. You never know. « Less